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PD Moderator	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:16:21 AM Ignore PD Report Abuse Illinois Governor Pat Quinn signed this morning SB965, giving the City of Chicago new authority to use its extensive network of red light running cameras as speed cameras. The law becomes active on July 1, so motorists should be prepared. This new law, authorities say, has always been for the protection of children and not about revenue. However, the same authorities argue that red light cameras also are only for safety, even while many studies have shown this is not the case. Such studies as a 2008 University of Florida study, or a 2007 Virginia Department of Transportation study that showed "the cameras were associated with an increase in total crashes... The aggregate EB results suggested that this increase was 29%... The cameras... Visit GasBuddy Blog for full article

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Illinois Governor Pat Quinn signed this morning SB965, giving the City of Chicago new authority to use its extensive network of red light running cameras as speed cameras. The law becomes active on July 1, so motorists should be prepared.

This new law, authorities say, has always been for the protection of children and not about revenue. However, the same authorities argue that red light cameras also are only for safety, even while many studies have shown this is not the case. Such studies as a 2008 University of Florida study, or a 2007 Virginia Department of Transportation study that showed "the cameras were associated with an increase in total crashes... The aggregate EB results suggested that this increase was 29%... The cameras...

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CanUGas Rookie Author Illinois Posts:1 Points:10,145 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2012 8:51:21 PM Ignore CanUGas Report Abuse Just another means to squeeze another dime out of us !! Absurd !
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,599 Points:1,607,570 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2012 2:55:08 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse 123: already does. blu: indeed.
123cowboy Champion Author Maine Posts:1,833 Points:403,570 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 1:50:44 PM Ignore 123cowboy Report Abuse big brother is really gonna be watching now...
blupupher Champion Author Houston Posts:3,540 Points:746,095 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 4:47:57 AM Ignore blupupher Report Abuse Title should read "Illinois approve money making scheme".
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,599 Points:1,607,570 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 3:08:19 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse gasokie: a better solution: have more rigorous driving instruction standards. Everyone seems to know the rules but no one really does anymore. So, uniform driving school curricula for all new drivers, mandatory amount of hours and the culture will change.
gasokie Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,442 Points:1,323,805 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 8:36:09 PM Ignore gasokie Report Abuse Ya know, these devices if allowed to stay they will "train" the small percent of people who run red lights and speed and are responsible for so many unnecessary deaths on our streets..(Can you see the road rage in these posts?) to obey traffic laws and start behaving like adults on our streets and highways ... then I say bring it on. If they (the speeders and light runners) continue their chosen and deliberate law-breaking ways then let them be the ones who pay more than their fair share of government financing. It is after all, a voluntary act to run a light or drive above the speed limit. Finally: Speed devices and such free up officers for other duty. I recently read a letter to the editor which the writer lamented the fact a cop hidden behind a billboard or something pulled him over and wrote him a ticket for $190.00 bucks...When he got home a burglar had broken in, stole his goodies..His wide screen TV and guns and stuff...took forever to get the cops out to do anything...which wasn't much...after all most of them are tied up out on the road....bothering the motoring public. Just sayin''
columbuskinsey Rookie Author Indiana Posts:8 Points:59,880 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 6:30:25 PM Ignore columbuskinsey Report Abuse chicago is looking worse and worse every day...before you know it their just gonna change the name to Stalag 13
Pete12 Champion Author Albany Posts:4,868 Points:1,642,305 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 5:05:18 PM Ignore Pete12 Report Abuse It's to make money no matter what they say.
SovietSunrise Champion Author San Antonio Posts:7,899 Points:1,117,010 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 4:47:14 PM Ignore SovietSunrise Report Abuse Absolutely pathetic.
hossneal Rookie Author Virginia Beach Posts:90 Points:544,875 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 12:10:07 PM Ignore hossneal Report Abuse us them
opus1 Sophomore Author Gary Posts:153 Points:744,560 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 10:06:21 AM Ignore opus1 Report Abuse Amen, jrsva. I find that many of the self-appointed nannies here are "Champion Authors". I guess between this stuff and one-word comments just to post something, we know how they became "champions". On a slow day, I'm going to pick 5 articles and type in "blort" or "bazzinga" or something just to be a "Champion" too. Those comments are as relevant as anything else I've seen. Counting down to this post being deleted now....10.....9......8.....
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,841 Points:1,611,050 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 9:01:04 AM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse “What does this have to do with energy or gas prices?” Why do you ask, Cakes? Do you think that somehow it is an inappropriate subject? Read the submission guidelines for news; it is very much on target.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,482 Points:1,508,130 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 7:25:05 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse Illinois poltics.
NukeAtComEd All-Star Author Milwaukee Posts:725 Points:338,520 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 5:53:27 AM Ignore NukeAtComEd Report Abuse just another revenue generator!! BIG BROTHER IS COMING!
Dennisjk Champion Author Detroit Posts:6,476 Points:1,923,500 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 5:35:15 AM Ignore Dennisjk Report Abuse Big Brother is watching and putting another hand in your pocket and it has nothing to do with safety.
Cakes77 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:5,151 Points:1,650,695 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 5:06:54 AM Ignore Cakes77 Report Abuse What does this have to do with energy or gas prices?
pscamp Champion Author Ottawa Posts:3,256 Points:472,110 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 3:22:08 AM Ignore pscamp Report Abuse Makes sense to me!
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,954 Points:2,343,560 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 12:29:00 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse If you are obeying the speed limit and all traffic laws then there should be no problem with adding speed detection to red light cameras for "safety?" Do Not give ‘them’ an excuse to stop, picture you and fine you and increase their city, county (parish, township, etc.), state or federal revenue. More and more police vehicles are getting cameras that read license plates and match the plate number with DMV records to see if the vehicle is legal to be on the road – registration, insurance or stolen. Face recognition and video cameras in police vehicles and on the street to detect if that person is wanted by law enforcement. More and more digital instruments, on the street (with red light cameras too) and in police vehicles, to observe, detect and survey the population. Some cities have UAV’s in the air to monitor the population at large – general traffic, speeders and the chase, dense population centers and homes. UAV’s can stay in the air much longer than a helicopter can. Those UAV’s may be equipped with FLIR infrared thermal imaging sensors, night vision, radar and electronic devices to see through and into homes. Big Brother at large! Governments can afford to spend tax dollars on this, the taxpayers will pay for it. Passenger vehicles will be a long time in coming with increased gadgets and improved technology, people do not want higher priced vehicles. Produce and ‘drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
Saturn93 Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:7,292 Points:1,640,885 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:50:07 PM Ignore Saturn93 Report Abuse They have to pay the high salaries of politicians, some way.
NedW Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:5,599 Points:1,139,320 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:37:04 PM Ignore NedW Report Abuse Chicago/IL needs the money and lusts control. Isn't this the same ground that bred Rod Blagojevich and Barrack Hussein Obama? [Edited by: NedW at 2/7/2012 1:38:38 AM EST]
KDMWI Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:4,187 Points:381,195 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:33:43 PM Ignore KDMWI Report Abuse Adding speed cameras won't stop anyone from going through a red light but you will notice more tickets in the mail.
TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:8,736 Points:1,974,700 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:26:58 PM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse Safety, my behind!!! Cash cow? Darned right.
Caduceus26 Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:3,886 Points:760,435 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:20:52 PM Ignore Caduceus26 Report Abuse "This new law, authorities say, has always been for the protection of children and not about revenue." Yeah, and I was just saying the same thing to Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy earlier. Safety my eye! This is all about revenue!
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:14,899 Points:1,589,275 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:19:53 PM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse If Illinois wants big brother let them have him. I'll stop at Iowa.
GAS1251 Champion Author Texas Posts:5,138 Points:1,624,280 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:17:23 PM Ignore GAS1251 Report Abuse The message here is "Stay out of Chicago"
asog75 All-Star Author Indiana Posts:836 Points:278,405 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:11:04 PM Ignore asog75 Report Abuse mo money,mo money
danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,337 Points:1,537,705 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:10:19 PM Ignore danreino Report Abuse Go sell crazy somewhere else; we're all stocked up here.
onegiraffeAL Champion Author Alabama Posts:1,015 Points:428,425 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:10:15 PM Ignore onegiraffeAL Report Abuse money talks
no8c Champion Author Ohio Posts:2,794 Points:702,900 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:10:04 PM Ignore no8c Report Abuse Thanks for posting this article!
notnxs383 Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,543 Points:589,470 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:09:35 PM Ignore notnxs383 Report Abuse sure is.
jpmorgas Champion Author North Carolina Posts:12,467 Points:2,411,025 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:06:35 PM Ignore jpmorgas Report Abuse safety b.s. -- it's about ticket revenue.
TommyTraveler Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:8,669 Points:1,696,355 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:05:54 PM Ignore TommyTraveler Report Abuse Ther're after the money people.
HDFXR1991 Veteran Author Wisconsin Posts:469 Points:141,030 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:03:58 PM Ignore HDFXR1991 Report Abuse Stop lights now ..... You just wait there be more on every light pole.
Tundralimited2009 Champion Author Dallas Posts:38,812 Points:1,447,425 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:02:53 PM Ignore Tundralimited2009 Report Abuse Law enforcement
jetlagAK Champion Author Anchorage Posts:2,246 Points:634,700 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:01:55 PM Ignore jetlagAK Report Abuse Ha. Nobama2012!
ShadowACE Champion Author Boston Posts:9,008 Points:2,147,625 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:01:47 PM Ignore ShadowACE Report Abuse For "safety?" Is that the new word that means "revenue enhancement??"
Scoutca All-Star Author Orange County Posts:525 Points:1,584,560 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 10:01:31 PM Ignore Scoutca Report Abuse They must think the average driver or person that reads their silly articles is brain dead!! Of course it's to raise more revenues... they can't get enough money directly out of taxpayers they have to get it from them indirectly! LA city council voted to have them taken out because of the increases in accidents.
comprof Champion Author Houston Posts:6,844 Points:1,353,825 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:58:12 PM Ignore comprof Report Abuse A Rice University study also showed increase in rear collisions in Houston where cameras were available.
HYEgasCA Champion Author Fresno Posts:2,111 Points:908,250 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:56:26 PM Ignore HYEgasCA Report Abuse They always say "protection of children" I'm so sick and tired of hearing that!!
Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,644 Points:2,358,020 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:55:47 PM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse Safety or Money?
bobt2382 Champion Author Texas Posts:2,909 Points:798,420 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:54:42 PM Ignore bobt2382 Report Abuse More money...isn't omoron from that state?
mrbee Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,744 Points:2,464,030 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:52:19 PM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse Not about revenue? Give me a break.
Rageagainsttm Champion Author Tampa Posts:8,293 Points:1,901,030 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:48:43 PM Ignore Rageagainsttm Report Abuse big brother
76chevy Champion Author Toledo Posts:3,986 Points:769,915 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:47:57 PM Ignore 76chevy Report Abuse obamas energy policy is helping to, now people can't aford to speed.
heartbroken2010 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:4,334 Points:895,585 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:46:38 PM Ignore heartbroken2010 Report Abuse gotta get the revenu somehow, sad but it's usually the easiest way to get it.
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:554,730 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:45:47 PM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Get ready for more rearend accidents
Rooster922 Champion Author Wilmington Posts:3,778 Points:654,120 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:41:33 PM Ignore Rooster922 Report Abuse It can cause accident if you are driving a Frozen VW. ha ha ha
Alaydown Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,098 Points:820,470 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:40:35 PM Ignore Alaydown Report Abuse Blue Cruzer: "If you don't run red lights, you shouldn't have to worry." In Los Angeles and in San Diego where they have red light cameras, the private company that runs the system shortened the time for the yellow light in order to get more violators. You will probably see the same thing happen in Illinois. It has nothing to do with safety. It is all about trying to get more ticket revenue.
bpoppe1 Veteran Author Houston Posts:403 Points:494,335 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:40:30 PM Ignore bpoppe1 Report Abuse frosty, it's because people will slam on the brakes to avoid going through an intersection with a camera, if there's a chance that the system thinks they were just a little too late for the green light.
Rooster922 Champion Author Wilmington Posts:3,778 Points:654,120 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 9:40:30 PM Ignore Rooster922 Report Abuse Its BS, it's not about revenue. Let them give it to charity, you know they loose interest pushing it.