honda0105

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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2012 3:20:06 AM
exploration of alternatives is a good thing, as long as it's not a total waste of taxpayers' money.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2012 4:40:00 AM
lots of ideas floating, lots of opinions. When looking at long range predictions, there should be at least a barrel of salt in the whole thing...
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remay

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 4:49:25 AM
"...we can increase use of domestic energy, fuel economic growth and enhance national security."
Really??? enhance national security???
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jetlagAK

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Anchorage
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 9:34:45 PM
Anyone else 2012!
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Harry813

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 9:18:11 PM
Production or profit ?
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MahopacJack

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New York
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 9:04:37 PM
Very interesting except our present administration has written off coal which would of course provide thousands of jobs.
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firefly09

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 7:42:21 PM
I agree with camel1.
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FunMyster

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 5:47:15 PM
This administration hates coal.
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DCbeachbum

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 4:44:48 PM
U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu does not want to see anything that doesn't make the US look like Europe.
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camel1

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 4:43:46 PM
options need to be explored
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amayne11

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 4:29:36 PM
sounds good
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DTrainCanada

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Saskatoon
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 4:22:45 PM
Cool ...
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Ray_10589

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New York
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 4:17:57 PM
good news ....
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itsjustme719

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Hamilton
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 4:14:20 PM
Agreed. The coal industry will say anything to stay in production.
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MikLamb

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 4:05:33 PM
Ok.
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PithyOpiner

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 4:03:04 PM
Man, the coal industry will do and say anthing to stay in business. What next? Eat coal if your testosterone is low?
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GoGoGoodyear

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:58:55 PM
This seems like a great way to have our cake and eat it too. There are many coal burning electric power plants in the US. They are facing the higher costs and complexity of installing special equipment to capture the CO2 output if they continue to use coal, or the higher costs of converting to natural gas to generate electricity.
Now the oil companies come along and want to buy that CO2 which they need, to use in extracting more oil from the wells. As a side benefit, the CO2 won't be released into the atmosphere, instead it will remain down in the empty oil wells after the oil is removed. Another benefit is that the CO2 can be sent to any oil wells where needed by the same pipelines crisscrossing the country that now carry oil and natural gas.
The coal burning electric generators make money by selling something they would need to dispose of anyway, and the oil companies get the CO2 they need for less money than if they make CO2 from processed natural gas. Some of the CO2 gets stored in empty wells where it can't hurt the environment. I don't see a problem, unless the government gets involved and messes it up somehow.
Wikipedia has a decent article on Enhanced Oil Recovery (EOR) which explains the use of CO2 for oil extraction.
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Is246

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:57:20 PM
Good news.
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libertyut

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Utah
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:53:48 PM
$2.00 or less a gallon.
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DrLyon

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:50:48 PM
Do it..
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Sego

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:49:10 PM
ok
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tsgasprc

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:49:00 PM
Anything to keep the cash flowing to big oil...
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mickealo

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Spokane
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:46:28 PM
ya right
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HoosierDaddyKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:43:27 PM
We shall see...
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Jeepergeo

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:43:22 PM
Bring it on.
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mandoid

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:41:48 PM
burning ANYTHING is not clean, but until we get fusion nothing really is
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GPD1739P

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:38:52 PM
Coal is not a clean source of energy.
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cmsense

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:38:41 PM
This is an article that needs further explanation and specifics.
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Mowerman08

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:38:08 PM
NO COAL, that is OBAMA'S GOAL!
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Dsin44

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Abbotsford
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:37:41 PM
ok
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s90201

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:37:20 PM
Nice
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dieselgus1

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Montana
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:36:57 PM
So many good ideas nowadays, let's hope one like this gets somewhere.
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preacherjohn

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Modesto
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:34:16 PM
is coal here to stay ..or is it a thing of the past?
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Bleeder

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:34:13 PM
Interesting report. Not quite wure of the veracity of its conclusions though.
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captngasTN

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:30:28 PM
and BO wants to kill coal plants
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humancry

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:29:14 PM
hmmmmmmmmm i need to hear more of this
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MadTraveler

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:27:19 PM
Interesting.
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Tru2psu2

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Winston-Salem
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:25:03 PM
Plants NEED it!
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DirtDauber

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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:23:48 PM
Another Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda.
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CatMan623

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:23:39 PM
The industry has been injecting CO2 in wells for decades.
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no8c

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:23:15 PM
Thanks
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car54BC

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:22:05 PM
The key words are " could boost "
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knifeman9

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:20:36 PM
Nice
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gas4433

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:19:07 PM
Ok
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heysailor

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:18:55 PM
So why aren't we doing this? Because it might involve spending money? That's not spending money at the Pentagon? The the chicken hawks don't want to spend any money on anything that's not built in their district and they don't want to spend any money on anything else.
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gsofrs

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Greensboro
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:15:09 PM
Still need to conserve.
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trytogetby

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:13:19 PM
OK
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streetcars

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:08:35 PM
yup
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WhiteTreeIndian

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:08:16 PM
Yeah I agree with that too.
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fireless1

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 3:07:31 PM
Ok
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