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TransCanada’s Keystone Wins Right to Take Pipeline Land

Businessweek -- TransCanada Corp. won court permission to build part of its Keystone XL pipeline across several contested tracts of southeast Texas farmland to carry Canadian tar-sands crude to Gulf Coast refineries.

State judge Tom Rugg Sr. granted the pipeline company’s requests to take possession of the tracts under state eminent- domain laws after a hearing today in Beaumont, Texas.

“The statutory requirements for the issuance of writs of possession are now met,” Rugg said in a two-page ruling, after TransCanada agreed to increase the size and type of surety bonds it posted in the proceeding.

The landowners urged Rugg to deny TransCanada’s access to the disputed tracts, citing a Texas Supreme Court ruling last year that limits the condemnation powers that pipelines can use under state law.

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Submitted Sep 30, 2012 By: drpepperTX

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 2:48:46 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse hairsplitting or truly taking away?
teenitup Champion Author Houston Posts:1,657 Points:250,910 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 12:19:14 PM Ignore teenitup Report Abuse Lot of people don't understand the slicerette.
slicerette Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,525 Points:541,205 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 8:47:18 AM Ignore slicerette Report Abuse When did an "Easement" to put a pipe four feet under come to mean "Take" Oh, I remember it was the New York Times that used the word "Confiscate" instead of easement when the New York Times was leading the charge against the pipeline. But of course the New York Times said they don't take sides. Just remember, after the pipeline is laid four foot under, the farmer can plant his corn and the rancher can graze his cattle over the pipeline because the land is still his, it is an easement!
knutzAL Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,248 Points:372,680 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 7:50:05 AM Ignore knutzAL Report Abuse Yup! all the below!
doctorindyj Champion Author Santa Fe Posts:3,458 Points:840,785 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 7:45:38 AM Ignore doctorindyj Report Abuse It's only going to get worse. Look up UN Agenda 21.
pbear316 Champion Author Akron Posts:2,035 Points:678,115 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 2:57:11 AM Ignore pbear316 Report Abuse Old news, but it still frosts me.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,047 Points:2,346,485 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 1:47:17 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse TransCanada’s Keystone Wins Right to Take Pipeline Land? What's wrong with this country, when an entity outside the US can take people’s land and get away with it! Your Land is Your Land! As long as you pay the taxes, pay your mortgage and have been farming it for as long as you have - NOBODY has the right to take or use any part of Your Land without Your Approval!!! NOBODY! TransCanada Is a Bully and needs to be stopped, the pipeline needs to be rerouted, the judge needs to rule for the land owners AND get fired too! The US federal or state governments do Not have any right to the same kind of tactics as TransCanada or anybody else. Big Oil will refine the crude oil at the Texas Gulf refineries and export the fuel to other countries that will pay more for it. Big Oil will build this pipeline and Nobody can say or do anything about it - Not Chucky, Not the affected land owners or anybody else. The oil pipeline from Cushing has already been approved, that pipeline will relieve the oil transportation bottle neck from there to the Gulf refineries. There will be NO price reduction of fuel, at the pump, in the US from this oil pipeline. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
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kingpin6 Champion Author Arkansas Posts:2,920 Points:1,561,725 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 9:03:58 PM Ignore kingpin6 Report Abuse Eminent domain. Not a good term to lots of people!
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SandeeC Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,998 Points:461,230 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:56:17 PM Ignore SandeeC Report Abuse Not surprising - all big corp's have ways to bulldoze their way through anything and get what they want.
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TBRR Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:3,672 Points:599,320 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:44:07 PM Ignore TBRR Report Abuse no doubt it will go to appeal and the lawyers will continue to make lots of money for the attorney retirement funds. this can be tied up for years in the courts so nothing will be accomplished. united we stand
mrbee Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,759 Points:2,466,805 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:41:07 PM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse Interesting.
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:8,829 Points:1,431,725 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:37:59 PM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse They can still bury the whole thing...
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,212 Points:873,340 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:37:54 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse Good, the landowner is being compensated and will not lose the use of his property, the pipeline runs underground and are much less obtrusive than giant overhead electric transmission towers.
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chuckhermann All-Star Author New York Posts:967 Points:500,175 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:31:02 PM Ignore chuckhermann Report Abuse Scary someone can just come cry emmine domain and you take your possession.
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drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,950 Points:753,185 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:21:34 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse You are right gumbyrex, and in this case almost a half million dollars was not enough for an easement to this landowner.
Darwin00 All-Star Author Mississippi Posts:830 Points:271,155 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:19:14 PM Ignore Darwin00 Report Abuse I guess the refineries are not complaining.
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,805 Points:819,310 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:18:18 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Interesting article...
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,497 Points:1,511,355 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:17:47 PM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse And the farmer gets the shaft again.
Signfool Champion Author Omaha Posts:5,976 Points:1,466,870 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:17:18 PM Ignore Signfool Report Abuse Whoever owns the land should be compensated.
dulberg Sophomore Author Long Island Posts:242 Points:265,480 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:15:55 PM Ignore dulberg Report Abuse k
nimpy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:8,140 Points:1,702,080 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:10:44 PM Ignore nimpy Report Abuse go for it, just don't sell the oil to the Chinese
tspaldi Champion Author Provo Posts:6,030 Points:937,440 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 8:07:55 PM Ignore tspaldi Report Abuse This pipeline is good for only "BIG OIL"! Canada needs to get their oil to port so it can be sold for a higher price... nothing else. We the USA will pay the price... Already there are farmers paying the price through eminent-domain! The pipe line is a bad deal.
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